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Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - Printable Version +- Hasleo Software Forums (https://www.easyuefi.com/forums) +-- Forum: Hasleo Software (formerly called EasyUEFI Development Team) (https://www.easyuefi.com/forums/forum-1.html) +--- Forum: Hasleo Backup Suite (Free Windows Backup & Restore Software) (https://www.easyuefi.com/forums/forum-10.html) +--- Thread: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP (/thread-4408.html) |
RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - Mustang - 12-28-2025 (12-27-2025, 06:39 PM)admin Wrote:(12-27-2025, 07:15 AM)Mustang Wrote: @xeroid RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - Mustang - 12-28-2025 (12-27-2025, 08:24 PM)admin Wrote: Understanding and Mitigating Performance Variations Across Mechanical Hard Drive Tracks for Fair Benchmarking RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - Froggie - 12-28-2025 Another factor that's never mentioned when benchmarking HDDs is the engineering model of the HDDs themselves. With the introduction of SMR vs CMR type HDDs, WRITE speeds have taken on a different life of their own with SMR HDDs adding significant WRITE time when accessing certain sections of the drives themselves. Adding complication to the issue is that many manufacturers never identified HDDs as far as SMR vs CMR types with little or no information available about different model drives... some still not available today. Personally, I don't know how proper comparisons can ever be made without this type of information. RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - Mustang - 12-28-2025 I did a test to a mechanical hard drive (6TB Toshiba X300 Pro): Macrium Reflect X (Medium Compression) Backup Time: 14 min. 39 sec. Verify Time: 14 min. 28 sec. Hasleo 5.6.1.1 Beta (Low Compression) Backup Time: 17 min. 46 sec. Verify Time: 15 min. 25 sec. RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - garioch7 - 12-28-2025 With respect, there are many factors that influence write/read speeds. I am only sharing my own results, with my own hardware. HBSP should compare itself with real-world computers. I compare the other two products with the exact same hardware configuration, as my comparison posts make clear. I am actually disappointed that Hasleo, and a very senior Forum member, would seek to "explain" my testing results ... It indicates a defensiveness that I was not expecting. My testing is an objective, impartial analysis of how HBSP compares to the other two products I use, and have used longer than HBSP, when used on my hardware configuration. May I respectfully suggest that instead of looking for explanations for my results, Hasleo concentrate its efforts on trying to improve the performance of HBSP on similar hardware configurations. Respectfully submitted, Phil RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - admin - 12-29-2025 (12-28-2025, 01:46 AM)Froggie Wrote: Another factor that's never mentioned when benchmarking HDDs is the engineering model of the HDDs themselves. With the introduction of SMR vs CMR type HDDs, WRITE speeds have taken on a different life of their own with SMR HDDs adding significant WRITE time when accessing certain sections of the drives themselves. Thank you, @Froggie, for pointing that out. Therefore, we can only conduct multiple tests and take the average to reduce errors, and try to use the same testing environment as much as possible. That is why we require using the same partition and formatting the partition before generating the image file. RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - admin - 12-29-2025 (12-28-2025, 07:19 AM)garioch7 Wrote: With respect, there are many factors that influence write/read speeds. I am only sharing my own results, with my own hardware. HBSP should compare itself with real-world computers. Dear Phil, Honestly speaking, compared to V5.4, the backup performance of V5.5 has indeed regressed somewhat, and we are currently investigating the cause of this issue. Regarding the performance differences caused by files being stored at different locations on the mechanical hard drive, this is something we recently discovered while working on improving the performance of image verification. It is indeed a real phenomenon. Best regards, RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - admin - 12-29-2025 Dear All, Here is the download link for the latest beta version: https://www.easyuefi.com/backup-software/downloads/Hasleo_Backup_Suite_Trial_Beta_251229.exe Please conduct your testing with this version. For changes in this version, please refer to: https://www.easyuefi.com/forums/thread-1262-post-11498.html#pid11498 Best regards, RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - garioch7 - 12-30-2025 @admin, Thank you for your reply. I am gratified by your response. I am doing real-world testing, with a hardware configuration that is not unusual. HBSP should strive to work effectively and efficiently on a variety of mainstream hardware platforms. My hardware configuration is listed in the header of all of my posts with the testing results. I have never claimed, nor would I, that HBSP doesn't perform better on other hardware configurations; hence, my disappointment that it was felt by some, that my findings needed to be "explained." I think it is very important that the Hasleo Team be aware that potential customers are making their decision as to whether to use/purchase Hasleo products, based, in some part, by what they read in the Hasleo Forums. A "defensive" posture is not, I submit, what Hasleo should project ... I have downloaded the latest beta version (5.6.1.1), but I will not be testing HBSP again until Friday, 2026-01-09. Last week, I started my tri-weekly testing cycle protocol with MR8. On 2026-01-02, I will test ETBH again. I would prefer to test the latest beta version of HBSP, as of 2026-01-09, so please keep us all informed of beta releases. I want to be scrupulously fair to HBSP, given that this relatively new program is evolving and developing at such a rapid pace. HBSP is up against competitors that have been "in the game" for many years. I am amazed HBSP has so quickly become a serious competitor to the older "giants" in the backup imaging world. I strive to do impartial testing. I am an HBSP customer with a lifetime license, including free upgrades, but I will not do "fan boy" testing. I let the impartial results of my testing of these three products on my hardware configuration, speak for themselves, in the hope that they might be of benefit to Hasleo. I also hold four lifetime licenses to MR8, and two lifetime licenses, with free upgrades, for ETBH; both purchased years ago. Have a great day, and I wish all of the best in 2026 to the Hasleo Team. You have come a very LONG way, already. Regards, Phil RE: Imaging Performance Testing: MR8, ETBH, HBSP - admin - 12-30-2025 Dear Phil, Thank you for your detailed feedback and continued testing. Your professional and objective testing methods, as well as your support for Hasleo products, are immensely valuable to us. We fully understand your concerns regarding hardware compatibility and performance, and we highly value the test results you provided based on your actual configuration. This is crucial for us to optimize our products and ensure compatibility with a wide range of mainstream hardware platforms. Regarding the impact of file storage location on read performance in mechanical hard drives, this is not a criticism of your test results. On the contrary, this test data has served as an important driver for us to continuously improve the image verification functionality, and we sincerely thank you for that. During our testing, we first ran MR to create an image, followed by HBS. In this scenario, no matter how much we optimized our code, HBS could not match the performance level of MR, which consumed a significant amount of our time. Later, we inadvertently deleted all images and first ran HBS to create an image, followed by MR. HBS’s performance improved significantly, and only then did we realize the issue inherent to mechanical hard drives. Once again, we appreciate your impartial testing approach and your recognition and encouragement of HBSP. We wish you a Happy New Year and all the best! Our team will continue to strive for excellence. Best regards, |