11-09-2025, 06:04 PM (This post was last modified: 11-09-2025, 07:17 PM by admin.)
(11-08-2025, 08:22 AM)garioch7 Wrote: Today I did my second disk/partition image with Hasleo Backup Suite Pro (HBSP). I am a newbie, so I wanted to share some suggestions to improve HBSP.
First, you should understand that I only ever do Full Disk Partition Backups weekly, initiating them manually. In essence, I want an backup image that will allow me to completely to restore my computer from a failed OS drive once it was replaced, exactly as it was at the time of its creation.
Second, I own a lifetime license to Easeus Todo Home Backup (ETBH), with free upgrades, for both of my computers. I also own a Macrium Reflect 8 (MR8) license, with four seats. It was my past practice to alternate my weekly system disk/partition images between both programs. I purchased Hasleo Backup Suite Pro (HBSP) about ten days ago, because when Macrium Reflect X became only a subscription product, it was time for me to move on. I detest subscription backup products. Now I am going to alternate all three imaging programs for as long as Windows does not "break" MR8. It is the best-in-class right now, but I think that the company has shot itself in the foot with their new subscription model.
Third, this post should be interpreted as constructive suggestions. I am very happy with HBSP. I could have done only with the free version, but I want to pay developers for their work.
My observations and suggestions:
1. I cannot set Global Settings so that my choices are remembered for future image backups. I have to go through the Options Menu each time to select that I do not want HBSP default settings of Filters On, Quick Check, Medium Priority, etc. I want the Filters off, a Complete Check, and High Priority.
2. Today, I created a Full Disk/Partition Image of my OS drive, with 223 GB used, and selected a Complete Check Image. The backup time was 15:45, but the Complete Check Image Time was 31:35, for a total backup job time of 47:30.
The backup time was impressive, but the Complete Check Image time was not. MR8 can do its "Verify Image" and imaging for total backup time of 24 minutes. ETBH can do its separate (you cannot select to have an automatic Check Image begin when the Backup is complete in that product) in about 34 minutes.
The progress bar goes to 80% in HBSP when the backup completes. It is glacial in moving from 80% to 100% when the Complete Check Image is selected. Competing products have a separate progress bar for verifying/checking the image.
Regardless, the Check Complete Image algorithms need to be tuned up to improve their speed.
These are "early days" and the development team is very small, but they have made a great start. I am very impressed with the product. Keep up the good work!
Regards,
Phil
I spent some time testing the performance of full image check for Macrium Reflect 8, Easeus Todo Backup 2025, and Hasleo Backup Suite 5.5. My approach involved first creating a full system backup using each backup software, then performing a full image check. The final result showed Hasleo Backup Suite 5.5 significantly outperforming the other two software. Below are the test results:
1st check 2nd check Image size Backup duration
Macrium Reflect 8: 9:11 9:28 121 GB 21:29
Easeus Todo Backup 2025 7:11 7:09 120 GB 29:23
Hasleo Backup Suite 5.5 2:50 2:50 109 GB 12:56
The backup source and destination are exactly the same, and all backups are performed using the default settings.
I'm curious why Macrium Reflect 8 appears more efficient than Hasleo Backup Suite 5.5 during the full image check performed after backup completion. When multiple backup versions exist for a task, does Macrium Reflect 8 verify all image versions?
Additionally, judging by Hasleo Backup Suite 5.5's CPU and disk I/O utilization, the potential for further efficiency gains appears extremely limited.
Thank you for your response. I must say that I was astounded by your posted results. I wish to respectfully dispute some of your conclusions, if I may ... ?
Quote:"The backup source and destination are exactly the same, and all backups are performed using the default settings."
First, and foremost, no one who is serious about their system imaging backups would store their backup images on the source drive. One of the key reasons for full Disk/Partition images is to be able to restore a failed source drive to a new one, or one that has to be reformatted for some reason. If that one drive fails, the backup image is lost as well.
In my case, I have NVMe SSD 1 TB source drive that is imaging to another internal WD Black 4 TB HDD, which I then subsequently copy to an external WD Black TB HDD. My results do not include that secondary copy.
Secondly, you used "default settings." You cannot default ETBH to do a Check Image. You must manually initiate that after the backup completes, unlike MR8 and HBSP5.
The HSBP "default" is to do a "Quick Check," which according to the Hasleo documentation does not ensure that all of the data in the backup image is uncorrupted; only that all of the backup files are there.
As I explained in my post, I want a Full Disk/Partition Image backup. I also want all of the Windows files included, which is disabled by the "default" HBSP "Filters" that preclude them from being imaged, so I disabled the HBSP default filters entirely.
Since I only ever create separate MR8 backup Disk/Partition Image backups, there are no incremental/differential backups to be verified, to use their terminology. I do the same with ETBH and with HBSP.
I am a very simple user. No schedules, nothing but manually-initiated full Disk/Partition images, with Windows files included. I want to be able to launch from a Recovery USB, locate the backup image, and restore it to a new drive, and have my computer boot as it was at the time the Disk/Partition image was created! Nothing fancy.
I clearly indicated that I was imaging 223 GB on my C: drive, but that does not include the other partitions that Dell and Windows have installed. I expect that I was really imaging about 250 GB. The most recent HBSP image, with Filters disabled, that I quoted, was 176 GB. That was impressive compression which compares favorably to MR8 (175), but not as much to ETBH, which comes in at 182 GB.
I do not wish to be argumentative, but your testing does not compare with my testing. Perhaps you have a much more powerful computer and faster NVMe drives than my old 2019 Dell 8930 SE desktop, Windows 11 Pro (26200.7019). The focus of Hasleo Software should be to test for real-world situations. Moreover, I repeat my recommendation that HBSP seek to improve its Check Image times.
So, I respectfully submit this post for your consideration. Thank you for allowing me to comment.
11-10-2025, 09:56 AM (This post was last modified: 11-10-2025, 11:03 AM by admin.)
(11-10-2025, 08:03 AM)garioch7 Wrote:
Quote:"The backup source and destination are exactly the same, and all backups are performed using the default settings."
First, and foremost, no one who is serious about their system imaging backups would store their backup images on the source drive. One of the key reasons for full Disk/Partition images is to be able to restore a failed source drive to a new one, or one that has to be reformatted for some reason. If that one drive fails, the backup image is lost as well.
I'm sorry I may not have explained clearly. I meant that all the backups being performed are system backups, which means the source is the same, and all the backup images are stored on another SSD drive instead of the C: drive, so the destination drive is the same, and all operations are on the same computer. Therefore, this is a real use case.
(11-10-2025, 08:03 AM)garioch7 Wrote: I do not wish to be argumentative, but your testing does not compare with my testing. Perhaps you have a much more powerful computer and faster NVMe drives than my old 2019 Dell 8930 SE desktop, Windows 11 Pro (26200.7019). The focus of Hasleo Software should be to test for real-world situations. Moreover, I repeat my recommendation that HBSP seek to improve its Check Image times.
Your point is absolutely correct, and we completely agree. Genuine user experience is precisely the core goal we aim to optimize. Our internal testing environment indeed cannot fully cover all the different hardware configurations (including classic models like the 2019 Dell desktop you are using) and system states of users worldwide.
If you could retry the test we conducted above and provide us with the image check results, it would be immensely helpful in assisting us to identify the root cause of the issue (If Macrium Reflect 8's image check performance isn't higher than Hasleo Backup Suite in this case, then how can it achieve higher performance when executing the verification immediately after the backup is completed?), and we would be very grateful.
I adjusted the settings to have Macrium Reflect 8 perform an image check after completing the backup, then executed a differential backup on the full backup created earlier. After the backup finished, the image check also completed quickly. This seems to indicate that Macrium Reflect 8 either did not perform a check on the previous full backup or only executed a quick check.
You can delete the previous post. It was mistakenly sent before it was complete. Here is the full reply. I tried editing my first post, but the Board stated my ten minutes had expired, so it would not accept my edit. I think that rule is a bit too strict.
"@admin,
Thank you very much for your reply. I was grateful to receive it.
We are talking about different imaging options, apparently. I create "Disk/Partition" images, not "System" images. I am imaging my entire Drive C: (1 TB NVMe SSD), and all its six partitions. For the last backup I cited, my C: partition (Partition 2) was 223 GB in size. The other five partitions were probably an additional ~20 GB). When I create my images with all three imaging programs, I do NOTHING else. I manually initiate the imaging process (backup/file check) and watch it to conclusion. All that is running is my ESET antivirus and Malwarebytes Premium, plus the usual background processes.
Moreover, my destination drive is NOT an SSD, but an internal 4 TB WD Black HDD, which will make my backups and image checks slower than your test computer. Moreover, I am NOT doing the default "Quick Check." I have turned the HBSP Filters off entirely, so I am backing up everything and then doing a "Complete Check." That too will increase my times.
There is no option in MR8 to my knowledge for a "Quick Verify" or a "Complete Verify." It has only one Verify option that I have ever seen in my years of using Macrium since version 5.
Similarly, ETBH only has one Check Image" option, either on or off. There is no "Quick Check" option in that product either.
I am happy to run the testing again, this time carefully noting the of the three products use to create the backup, and then to Check/Verify it. I backup once a week on Friday afternoons. The coming Friday, I will run MR8. I will record my times and forward them.
The following Friday, I will use ETBH and note its times for backing up and checking the image, and report them.
The week after, I will use HBSP, and once again note the times.
If you require my detailed computer specs, I will be happy to provide them.
I decided to provide you with a dxdiag.txt report of my desktop. It may be a 2019 model, but I had Dell build it for high-definition video editing, one of my passions. Video editing is very resource-intensive, and using an average computer to edit HD videos takes so much longer than with a computer that has sufficient RAM and a dedicated, quality GPU.
My testing, therefore, is with a computer that is more powerful than the computers that most of your clients have.
You can delete the previous post. It was mistakenly sent before it was complete. Here is the full reply. I tried editing my first post, but the Board stated my ten minutes had expired, so it would not accept my edit. I think that rule is a bit too strict.
"@admin,
Thank you very much for your reply. I was grateful to receive it.
We are talking about different imaging options, apparently. I create "Disk/Partition" images, not "System" images. I am imaging my entire Drive C: (1 TB NVMe SSD), and all its six partitions. For the last backup I cited, my C: partition (Partition 2) was 223 GB in size. The other five partitions were probably an additional ~20 GB). When I create my images with all three imaging programs, I do NOTHING else. I manually initiate the imaging process (backup/file check) and watch it to conclusion. All that is running is my ESET antivirus and Malwarebytes Premium, plus the usual background processes.
Moreover, my destination drive is NOT an SSD, but an internal 4 TB WD Black HDD, which will make my backups and image checks slower than your test computer. Moreover, I am NOT doing the default "Quick Check." I have turned the HBSP Filters off entirely, so I am backing up everything and then doing a "Complete Check." That too will increase my times.
There is no option in MR8 to my knowledge for a "Quick Verify" or a "Complete Verify." It has only one Verify option that I have ever seen in my years of using Macrium since version 5.
Similarly, ETBH only has one Check Image" option, either on or off. There is no "Quick Check" option in that product either.
I am happy to run the testing again, this time carefully noting the of the three products use to create the backup, and then to Check/Verify it. I backup once a week on Friday afternoons. The coming Friday, I will run MR8. I will record my times and forward them.
The following Friday, I will use ETBH and note its times for backing up and checking the image, and report them.
The week after, I will use HBSP, and once again note the times.
If you require my detailed computer specs, I will be happy to provide them.
Thank you again. Have a great day.
Regards,
Phil"
When performing a manual image check, Macrium Reflect provides a "Verify just this Differential" option. So, in the post-backup image verification, does Macrium Reflect also only check the newly created image file? I have no way of knowing, it's just my guess because it finishes so quickly. Even if it's only reading 120GB of data from the disk, it shouldn't finish that fast.
You are correct. With that CheckBox selected, it will only check the selected file (Full, Diff, Inc)... in your case a differential. Without that CheckBox, it will check the entire image chain that the selected file is part of.
(Yesterday, 09:32 PM)Froggie Wrote: You are correct. With that CheckBox selected, it will only check the selected file (Full, Diff, Inc)... in your case a differential. Without that CheckBox, it will check the entire image chain that the selected file is part of.
Welcome back. What I'm trying to figure out now is whether it checks the entire image chain after the backup is complete, or just the newly created backup file.
Thank you! If you have the VERIFY option set for a scheduled operation, it will only check the image segment taken by the operation (Full/Diff/Inc). If you want the entire image checked, it must be done manually via their "Existing Backups" TAB (select the segment and decide whether only the segment is verified or the whole image).
