File & Folder exclusions

[xeroid]

Hello - I noticed in the backup options - filters, there are 2 items selected by default. They are Exclude system files and folders and hidden files and folders. Can someone explain why those would be selected? I would have thought that you want them included.

Thanks

[admin]

These two options are not global options, they only work for each filter you add, for example if you add a filter to exclude the C:\Test folder, Hasleo Backup Suite will exclude all files in C:\Test if you check both options, otherwise HBS will only exclude non-system files and non-hidden files in C:\Test.

[peas]

Thanks for clarifying how the filters work. That makes a lot more sense now, especially that the system and hidden file exclusions apply within the context of each filter rather than globally. I was initially reading it as a general setting affecting the entire backup, so this explanation clears up the confusion. Appreciate the detailed response!

[xeroid]

These two options are not global options, they only work for each filter you add, for example if you add a filter to exclude the C:\Test folder, Hasleo Backup Suite will exclude all files in C:\Test if you check both options, otherwise HBS will only exclude non-system files and non-hidden files in C:\Test.

Thank you!

[admin]

These two options seem very misleading, any suggestions on how to make changes to the interface?

[xeroid]

These two options seem very misleading, any suggestions on how to make changes to the interface?

I don't have an interface change idea that immediately comes to mind, but at the bare minimum, I would at least put a comment just below that choice indicating your previous answer in this thread. Example below.

Note: These two options are not global options, they only work for each filter you add, for example if you add a filter to exclude the C:\Test folder, Hasleo Backup Suite will exclude all files in C:\Test if you check both options, otherwise HBS will only exclude non-system files and non-hidden files in C:\Test.

[CDC9762]

These two options seem very misleading, any suggestions on how to make changes to the interface?

I don't have an interface change idea that immediately comes to mind, but at the bare minimum, I would at least put a comment just below that choice indicating your previous answer in this thread. Example below.

Note: These two options are not global options, they only work for each filter you add, for example if you add a filter to exclude the C:\Test folder, Hasleo Backup Suite will exclude all files in C:\Test if you check both options, otherwise HBS will only exclude non-system files and non-hidden files in C:\Test.

Interesting, and it somewhat depends on how the individual users "think". What I say below is really the same as presently offered but with the logic reversed and a bit of an explanation.
This topic was enough to make my head spin so I hope I understood it and got it right.

Exclude usage is vague, does it mean exclude from the filter or exclude from the backed-up files.

If I select c:\test, I usually want it to exclude the whole folder.

Right now it appears that the Exclude system/hidden boxes have to be ticked exclude these files in the backup so I think this should be changed.

For this filter only
Box 1: Do not backup any files in C:\test (for info, clicked already by default)
Box 2: Backup System Files present in C:\test (unticked as default)
Box 3: Backup Hidden Files present in C:\test (unticked as default)

When box 2 or box 3 get ticked, it automatically removes the tick from box 1.


It can be undesirable to change horses in midstream since users may already have backup routines setup. Being a new user, I don't know how prevalent this would be.

[corttex]

Full System Backup with enabled filter backup 15.7 GB
Full System Backup with disabled filter backup 17.7 GB
What's the difference in size when these two options are not global options. Do I need to uncheck the enable backup filter option every time when I want a really full system backup?

[Epictetus]

I don't have an interface change idea that immediately comes to mind, but at the bare minimum, I would at least put a comment just below that choice indicating your previous answer in this thread. Example below.

Note: These two options are not global options, they only work for each filter you add, for example if you add a filter to exclude the C:\Test folder, Hasleo Backup Suite will exclude all files in C:\Test if you check both options, otherwise HBS will only exclude non-system files and non-hidden files in C:\Test.

Interesting, and it somewhat depends on how the individual users "think". What I say below is really the same as presently offered but with the logic reversed and a bit of an explanation.
This topic was enough to make my head spin so I hope I understood it and got it right.

Exclude usage is vague, does it mean exclude from the filter or exclude from the backed-up files.

If I select c:\test, I usually want it to exclude the whole folder.

Right now it appears that the Exclude system/hidden boxes have to be ticked exclude these files in the backup so I think this should be changed.

For this filter only
Box 1: Do not backup any files in C:\test (for info, clicked already by default)
Box 2: Backup System Files present in C:\test  (unticked as default)
Box 3: Backup Hidden Files present in C:\test  (unticked as default)

When box 2 or box 3 get ticked, it automatically removes the tick from box 1.


It can be undesirable to change horses in midstream since users may already have backup routines setup. Being a new user, I don't know how prevalent this would be.

This topic makes my head spin too. I just always do a Full manual backup with filters NOT enabled.

But it prompts me to ask another question: Is there any point/advantage to having Smart Backup enabled if all you ever do is Full Manual backups?

[admin]

What's the difference in size when these two options are not global options.

I don't quite understand your true meaning. Obviously, if both options are selected and the filtered files/folders contain hidden or system files, the generated backup file will be smaller.

Do I need to uncheck the enable backup filter option every time when I want a really full system backup?

I don't think so. For page, hibernation, swap, and VSS snapshot files, they would become invalid after a system restart, so filtering out these files does not mean that the backup you generate is not a really full system backup.